He Who saw the Deep8 November 2010
David Martin, lead singer and guitarist from I Like Trains, talks about a new album, climate change and why they're supporting us.
Your new album - He Who Saw the Deep - is out in October. What's it about?
We started out writing songs about history - mostly tragic historical figures and stories. We did a couple of records in that vein and got known for it.
Then we said okay, we want to change what we're doing. What's the obvious progression? And for us, it was to stop looking to history for inspiration and start looking to the future - to where we're heading.
So I did a lot of research into the science of climate change.
The new record reflects different aspects of that.
Why climate change?
My parents work in the environment sector. My girlfriend does as well. So I'm kind of surrounded by it.
And I'd like to think that as a band we're all reasonably socially conscious.
I've tried not to spell everything out. It's a little bit more cryptic. I'm not trying to preach. I'm just sort of documenting what's happening or what could be happening.
You write the songs. But there are 4 of you in the band. What did the others think when you suggested a change in focus?
I think we all knew it was the right time to change. It was a change of approach but also a change in sound.
We're quite a dark band, but there's more levity to the new record in a way.
You've said of the album that 'there's light and shade, hope and devastation'. Where do you see hope?
I think we are probably near the point of no return with climate change. But that's not to say that I think we should stop trying.
I think it would take a massive worldwide political shift to get to a position where I can see a good future for humanity. A lot of people want to make that change.
Can music make a difference?
A lot of people I've spoken to think that a musician talking about this kind of issue leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
I don't agree with that.
I think that if a musician is in a position where young, impressionable people are listening to them, they should grab it with both hands. Not to make them think exactly what they are thinking. But just to make them think.
It's one of the things that really attracted me to Friends of the Earth - you're involved in youth culture and in getting young people involved. I think that's important.
You're donating 5% of the profits from the sale of your album to Friends of the Earth. Why?
I like the fact that it's a household name - a global name. But with the foresight to work locally. You know that's how it's going to get done - if it's going to get done.
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